cemetery+crematorium at Bkt Jalil

[BK6Bee]

Cemetery-Crematorium going to be located near densely populated areas

A 80 years old School, SRJK (T) Landang Bukit Jalil located at the former Bukit Jalil Estate (now surrounded by a densely populated area) was forced to make way for a Cemetery-Crematorium. 58 families have been served eviction notices by the Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) a few months ago. New location of school is nearby and land provided is insufficient to cater for the increase of students due to new neigbouring flats and houses that are soon to be occupied.

Residents had already voiced out their displeasure on this matter to Bandar Tun Razak MP Datuk Tan Chai Ho and the MIC as most of the affected residents within the Cemetery-Crematorium location site are Indians. No feedback has been heard from the MP himself.

News on this issue has alerted concerned residents around this location site of the Cemetery-Crematorium. We bring up this issue for discussion just to hope all of us can help/assist in some way to fight for the abolishment of this Cemetery-Crematorium.

Don’t be misleading that this is another project in a rural area. The Cemetery-Crematorium location site is situated in a densely populated area surrounded by low cost to medium high cost residential houses, apartment flats and condominiums. Please see map posted earlier. Affected residents are from Bukit Jalil Estates, Kampung Muhibba, Bukit OUG houses/flats/condos, Jalil Grove, Bandar Bukit Jalil apartments, Kinrara Industrial Zone, Mutiara Bukit Jalil, Some sections of Bandar Kinrara, etc.

It is very strange that displeasure project always located at junction covering different constituencies. The location site touches lands under MPSJ and DBKL  Beside Bandar Tun Razak MP Datuk Tan Chai Ho we would think YB Lau (MP of Puchong) and his state assemblyman, YB Kow and YB Satim should also be informed on this issue and seeking their help to resolve this issue.

Should you think that it is not feasible to locate a Cemetery-Crematorium in the mentioned location please voice your reasons of objection/displeasure in this forum so that the helpful parties can consolidate and bring up to the authority.

[Luke7689]

How do we launch a campaign to let the authorities know that this is not a good or sensible idea?

[puff]

The acting RA of ladang Bkt Jalil have submitted objection letters many relevent authorities and also to PM department last week.  DBKL will bull doze their homes any time. 

[wl]

This is crazy. When will all these stop once and for all. After the incinerator, then SWTS and now this. Are the DBKL decision maker fxxking out of their mind?

[puff]

My main concern is the crematorium.  It gives out smell and unfiltered emission that travel far and wide during operation hours.  it pollutes the environment. 

[KK]

I think we should inform & alert all the MPs and ADUNs for the areas involved. if we don't do, they will say they are not aware of this plan.

Once informed, if they don't take action, then the next general election, they and their party belong should know................the result.

Anyone can help to contact and alert them?

[BK6Bee]

KK,

      I saw the contacts of MPs & Assemblyman under the topic "solid wastes trafer centers at Kg. Bohol". Maybe we can form a team to hightlight to them.

      I do not like the idea of authority granting permit for housing development and when houses are up they put in displeasure and non-feasible project in the middle of a new township.

      Someone please help to get the copy of the site plan and I will help to insert details in my earlier map.

[king]

Another article on this issue: -


Learning amidst the dead
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/75169 
Fauwaz Abdul Aziz
Nov 23, 07 12:38pm
 
Children who will be attending a Tamil primary school in Bukit Jalil, Kuala Lumpur, in the near future may mistake their alma mater for a horror movie set.

This is because the school is slated to be constructed in the midst of not one, but numerous cemeteries several times its size.

Shuddering at the thought, Bukit Jalil estate resident V Loudesmary said she does not understand how the authorities can imagine children going to school under such circumstances.

Loudesmary, who attended the estate’s present SRJK Ladang Bukit Jalil more than 30 years ago, said the land allotted for the new school was inadequate for children.

This is in addition to the overwhelming presence of Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist and Christian cemetaries contained in the proposed development plan for Bukit Jalil estate, she added.

“The land planned for the school is too small and it is surrounded by cemeteries. Where are the children supposed to play?” she asked when contacted yesterday.

“Do they expect them to just come to school, stay in their classrooms, and go straight home after that?”

Development plan

According to Kuala Lumpur City Hall’s (DBKL) development plan for Bukit Jalil estate, the new SRJK Ladang Bukit Jalil will share grounds - measuring a total of 0.404 hectares - with a Hindu temple.

On one side of the temple/school is a Hindu cemetary that is slightly bigger at 0.43 ha, while the other side will be occupied by Christian cemetary measuring 0.49 ha.

To the east and south, there will be Buddhist cemetery measuring 3.28 ha and a Muslim cemetery measuring 5.69.

This is in addition to another Muslim cemetary measuring 3.9 ha adjacent to the Buddhist cemetary.

The smaller Muslim cemetary is believed to be part of the temporary detention centre planned for Bukit Jalil which will replace the overcrowded Kuala Lumpur Remand Centre formerly known as Pudu Jail.

Loudesmary’s concerns are the latest among the residents who have been in distress since the government’s acquisition of the estate land in July 1980 for the purposes of development.

While the rubber trees have made way for the ultra-modern Bukit Jalil Sports Complex and the equally impressive Bukit Jalil Golf Club, the estate residents face eviction and the demolition of their houses by DBKL.

Better treatment

Their refusal to move out - some of them have lived in the estate for up to 60 years in houses given to them by the British during colonial times - has led to their being labelled squatters by DBKL.

Although DBKL has offered to relocate them to a nearby low-cost public housing project (PPR), the residents argue that their decades of service tapping rubber - including, at one point, for DBKL itself - qualifies them to better treatment and compensation.

Having ultimately agreed to move to the PPR flats last August, bureaucratic complications have led to a further delay to their relocation. The residents who have not already moved are still waiting to receive DBKL’s letters of offering to occupy the flats.

While that has yet to be resolved, the residents were visited by DBKL officers on Tuesday and reminded that their houses would be demolished as stipulated in notices issued on July 14 and 16 this year.

The residents’ spokesperson S Thiakarajan said the reprieve granted to them by DBKL had expired. The officers made their rounds on Tuesday to tell residents the demolition exercise would occur Nov 22.

However, DBKL seems to have put off the demolition after DBKL was informed that an appeal had been lodged with the office of Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

“We don’t know how long we can continue holding them off. We hope to receive a reply from Abdullah’s office soon,” said Thiakarajan when contacted.
 

It is shocking that the authorities are givong priority to the dead than those living!

[BK6Bee]

King,

      Thanks for posting the news.

      I have heard "Living Peoples occupy land of the dead" but this time looks like our authority is helping the deads to occupy land of the living peoples. What a world ?

[BK6Bee]

Wake up friends!

If you do not like artificial pepper in your food.

[puff]

ya, then we can have Indian pepper, Chinese pepper, ang-mo pepper, and other exotic ones like Nepalis , darker version ones from Zimbabwee ....

[BK6Bee]

Puff,

      You are right! There will be no artificial pepper from the Muslim groups because Cremation is not accepted by Islam and to my understanding also not by Judaism.
 
       It is a fact that Crematoriums cause air pollution during the burning process. Even if special chimneys filters are used and if one area expose to excessive ashes it can possible cause pollution.

       As it is known 60-70 % of human body is composed of water. Rest of the human body composes of the elements such as C, N, Ca, P, K, S, Na, Cl, Mg, Fe, I respectively with their amounts. In addition there are some metals such as Cu, Mn, Zn, fluorine, chrome and selenium with very little amounts. 

       In adults 16 % of human body is from protein, 18 % from fat, 1% from carbohydrate and 6 % from minerals. After burning process some of the organic substances convert to gas such as H2S, NO2 CO, CO2 by reactions with water. These gases produce air pollution. Resting substances such as C, CaPO4  form ashes.

       Also metals do not burn and they are available in ashes. C, N, S, P and H2O can participate to natural cycle. Since metals are not recycling in nature if one area expose to excessive ashes it can be possible to cause pollution.

       The authority offices are far away and by the time when these heavy metals reach the air there the density is so low that it will not cause any harm to them. Should they think the crematorium does not cause any harm to the residents around it then why don’t they build one in the Putrajaya instead. I understand there is still plenty of vacant land there.

[BK6Bee]

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[BK6Bee]

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[BK6Bee]

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See picture below and that is what some peoples choose to put dead bodies and burn in the cremation process.