cemetery+crematorium at Bkt Jalil

[wl]

i went to view the site yesterday. there is a slip road that connects the industrial area to the flats. the site is just next to the flats. there is a connecting road that links to the main puchong road and also to bukit OUG.

[BK6Bee]

      The earlier pictures show some of the examples of coffin fittings used in Modern Coffins. Although some coffin fittings are made of metal but most of the coffin fittings are made of plastic material. When plastic material burns in the presence of cholrine Dioxin formed and Dioxin is proven to be human carcinogen.

      In addition to cancer, exposure to dioxin can also cause severe reproductive and developmental problems (at levels 100 times lower than those associated with its cancer causing effects). Dioxin is well-known for its ability to damage the immune system and interfere with hormonal systems.

      Dioxin exposure has been linked to birth defects, inability to maintain pregnancy, decreased fertility, reduced sperm counts, endometriosis, diabetes, learning disabilities, immune system suppression, lung problems, skin disorders, lowered testosterone levels and much more. For an detailed list of health problems related to dioxin, read the People's Report on Dioxin (http://www.besafenet.com/report.html).

      This is frightening news and if you read my next news it will even be more frightening!

[dog]

Thanks for the insight, BK6Bee. I've never thought about coffins being hazardous that way.

[BK6Bee]

Dog,

      Beside Coffin Fittngs there are also other plastic materials used in contstructing the modern coffins. Nowadys it is too costly to buy a coffin that is made of wood entirely and with plastic coffin even two men can carry it with a dead body inside. The world is changing we are creating things to pollute the environment that kill ourselves.

[BK6Bee]

Cremation pollutes the environment with heavy metals that also fall to your food as artificial peppers and the most toxic metal is Mercury.

Mercury is the most toxic of the toxic metals. Mercury (vapor) is carried by the blood to cells in all organs of the body where it:

      (a) is cytotoxic(kills cells)

      (b) penetrates and damages the blood brain barrier, resulting in accumulation of mercury and other  toxic substances in the brain; also accumulates in the motor function areas of the brain and CNS.

      (c) is neurotoxic(kills brain and nerve cells): damages brain cells and nerve cells; generates high levels of reactive oxygen species(ROS) and oxidative stress, depletes glutathione and thiols causing increased neurotoxicity from interactions of ROS, glutamate, and dopamine; kills or inhibits production of brain tubulin cells; inhibits production of neurotransmitters by inhibiting: calcium-dependent neurotransmitter release, dihydroteridine reductase, nitric oxide synthase, blocking neurotransmitter amino acids, and effecting  phenylalanine, serotonin, tyrosine and tryptophan transport to neurons.

      (d) is immunotoxic(damages and inhibits immune T-cells, B-cells, neutrophil function, etc.) and  induces ANA antibodies and autoimmune disease.

      (e) is nepthrotoxic(toxic to kidneys)
 
      (f) is endocrine system-disrupting chemical(accumulates in pituitary gland and damages or inhibits    pituitary glands hormonal functions at very low levels, adrenal gland function, thyroid gland function, thymus gland function, and disrupts enzyme  production processes at very low levels of exposure.

      (g) exposure to mercury vapor (or methyl mercury) causes rapid transmittal through the placenta  to the fetus and significant developmental effects-much more damage to the fetus than for maternal exposure to inorganic mercury and at lower exposure levels than for organic mercury.

      (h) reproductive and developmental toxin; damages and inhibits DNA  & RNA  synthesis; damages sperm, lowers sperm counts and reduces motility; causes menstrual disturbances; reduces bloods ability to transport oxygen to fetus and transport of essential nutrients including amino acids, glucose, magnesium, zinc and Vit B12; depresses enzyme isocitric dehydrogenase (ICD) in fetus, causes reduced iodine uptake & hypothyroidism; causes learning disabilities and impairment, and reduction in IQ, causes infertility, causes birth defects.

      (i) prenatal/early postnatal exposure affects level of nerve growth factor in the brain, impairs astrocyte function, and causes imbalances in development of brain.

      (j) causes cardiovascular damage and disease: including damage to vascular endothelial cells, damage to sarcoplasmic reticula, sarcolemma, and contractile proteins, increased white cell count, decreased oxyhemoglobin level, high blood pressure, tachycardia, inhibits cytochrome P450/heme synthesis, and increased risk of acute myocardial infarction.

      (k) causes immune system damage resulting in allergies, asthma, lupus, schleraderma, chronic fatigue  syndrome(CFS), and multiple sensitivities(MCS) and neutrophil functional impairment.

      (l) causes interruption of the cytochromeC oxidase system/ATP energy function and blocks enzymes needed to convert porphyrins to adenosine tri phosphate(ATP) causing progressive  porphyrinuria,  resulting in low energy, digestive problems, and porphyrins in urine.

      (m) inhibition of immune system facilitates increased damage by bacterial, viral, and fungal infections, and increased antibiotic resistance.
      (n) mercury causes significant destruction of stomach and intestine epithelial cells, resulting in damage  to stomach lining which along with mercury’s ability to bind to SH hydroxyl radical in cell membranes alters permeability and adversely alters bacterial populations in the intestines causing leaky gut syndrome with toxic, incompletely digested complexes in the blood and accumulation of heliobacter pylori, a suspected major factor in stomach ulcers and stomach cancer and candida albicans, as well as poor nutrient absorption.

      (o) forming strong bonds with and modification of the-SH groups of proteins causes  mitochondrial release of calcium, as well as altering molecular function of amino acids and damaging enzymatic process resulting in improper cysteine regulation, inhibited glucose transfer and uptake, damaged sulfur oxidation processes, and reduced glutathione availability (necessary for  detoxification).
 
      (p) HgCl2 inhibits aquaporin mediated water transport in red blood cells.

My question to you is where this Mercury comes from ? Obviously from the dead bodies during the cremation process but how exactly was the process ? I am also giving a price for the first person who answer this question correctly. Same price, an animated profile image.

[wl]

My question to you is where this Mercury comes from ? Obviously from the dead bodies during the cremation process but how exactly was the process ? I am also giving a price for the first person who answer this question correctly. Same price, an animated profile image.[/color][/b]

from tooth fillings? dunno the exact term though.

seriously we need to gather these information and submit to the authorities before it is too late.

is there a task force formed yet?

btw, i'm working in penang and my family is in BK2 and i go back every weekend

[Luke7689]

I wonder what they use for arterial embalming and how these chemicals will add on to the pollution when a body is cremated.  I understand that it is normal to embalm bodies even if they are cremated in order to keep the bodies during the funeral.

[BK6Bee]

WL,

      You are absolutely correct! Dental Amalgam Fillings contribute Mercury toxic to the environment. Although not many peoples have dental fillings but Mercury Accumulation in the body is faster than the process of its excretion out of the body. In other words if you take in little mercury into your body everyday the accumulation eventually will cause problem to you and your descendants.

      WL, we do not need to gather physically at one place to express our displeasant view. As long as we have this forum we can group together and discuss the issue even if you are on the other side of globe.

      Since you got the right answer I would like to congratulate you for being the winner and I will make one animated profile image for you. Please provide your specification.

     
     

[BK6Bee]

Luke,

      Arterial Embalming is a process in which a mixture of chemicals known as embalming fluid is injected to preserve deceased individuals, sometimes only until the funeral, other times indefinitely. Typically embalming fluid contains a mixture of formaldehyde, methanol, ethanol and other solvents.

      I do not see much problem in Methanol and ethanol but formaldehyde is classified as a human carcinogen. Forest fire is a worst process as compare cremation of dead bodies because not many dead bodies are injected with Embalming chemicals.

[wl]

WL,

      Since you got the right answer I would like to congratulate you for being the winner and I will make one animated profile image for you. Please provide your specification.
     
     

what specifications? can give examples?

btw, you seem to be very knowledgeable in this area, are you a chemist or something?

[BK6Bee]

WL,

      I am not a Chemist nor a doctor and dare not claim that I am knowledgeable but I am a person who like to analyse problems, can and willing to spend hours to resolve problems. I like to learn smart ways of doing things from the elderly peoples and imaginative way of doing things from the younger generation. The information posted are all learned and gathered from the Internet. I just help peoples to cut short their process of researching the related information.

      Regarding the specification on the animated profile image is just how you like your animated profile image. Your choice, you can send me personal message to describe your specification. See some examples of animated profile images used in this forum or those show on other web sites.

      I hope you can help to post the issue on Cemetery-Crematorium on other forum or perhaps tell all your friends who are within 4 km radius from the Crematorium to highlight or email their complaints to their YBs and DBKL. (I still need information from anyone who has a site plan of the Cemetery-Crematorium so that we will know the exact location)
 

[BK6Bee]

What is formaldehyde?

Formaldehyde is a colorless, flammable, strong-smelling gas. It is an important industrial chemical used to manufacture building materials and to produce many household products. It is used in pressed wood products such as particleboard, plywood, and fiberboard, glues and adhesives, permanent press fabrics, paper product coatings, and certain insulation materials. In addition, formaldehyde is commonly used as an industrial fungicide, germicide, and disinfectant, and as a preservative in mortuaries and medical laboratories.

My younger days' encounter with formaldehye is when I bought it from the pharmacy and use it as a preservative for my collections of butterflies. But later when I was more educated I begin to realise that I am allergy to formaldehyde. I always experience pain in my eyes and tears dropping when I am near smooking area of burning woods especially in a temple when a lot of joss sticks are burning. Formaldehye fills the air when woods burn. To those who are not technical do you know what is formaldehyde now ?

[Luke7689]

Imagine bodies to be cremated is preserved in formaldehyde..... then how it would dissepate into the atmosphere and then absorbed by residents living nearby.  The next best thing they should do is to set up specialist center for cancer patients.... that is scarry!!!!!!

[BK6Bee]

Information that I have found has indicated that the Crematorium is near to the SRJK (T) Ladang Bukit Jalil and therefore closer to Bandar Kinrara. See map below. I do not see a plan for a crematorium in the map and just cannot imagine why DBKL changed the plan.

There is also a projected Cemetery Land Requirement by 2020.

[Luke7689]

It is truly disappointing to hear that this is going to happen.  We should write to all MPs and petition for DBKL to stop bothering these lands that are bordering other township or councils and keep them green.  We should capitalize on the upcoming elections in 2008 to get them to once and for all resolve all these issues.  Even the incinerator at Kg Bohol... I believe will be an issue again as long as there is no complete closure.